Anya Bershad (PhD, MD candidate, Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience, UChicago) and Bill Hutchison (PhD Candidate, Department of English, UChicago) interview Martin Sheeler (PhD candidate, Physics, UChicago). The conversation weaves between Martin's work on knotting and vortexes, his interdisciplinary work with Jonathan Rockford (MFA Fiber & Material Studies, SAIC) as a 2014–15 Arts, Science & Culture Graduate Collaboration Grantee, and the role Magic: The Gathering plays in all of this.